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Most of us would agree that children in a society should be protected and should have rights. But what should those rights be?

In this episode of the Limitless Spirit Podcast, our host Helen Todd speaks with Katy Faust, the founder and director of the children’s rights organization, “Them Before Us”. Katy’s parents divorced when she was ten years old, and her father went on to remarry while her mother entered a same-sex relationship. She is now a mom of 4 children, she has worked at the largest Chinese adoption agency in the world, and she has 20 years of experience in youth ministry.

In this episode, you’ll hear how Katy’s professional experience as well as her parents’ divorce shaped her strong view on the importance of putting the needs of children before the desires of adults. She will highlight the current trends that have the most devastating effect on children, and how we can help protect our kids from the indoctrination they face in culture.

You can read Katy Faust and Stacy Manning’s book “Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children’s Rights Movement” on Amazon:

Learn more about Them Before Us at their website:


3:52 – Katy Faust’s story

7:35 – Katy’s inspiration to start the “Them Before Us” movement

9:40 – The effect on a child of being deprived of a parent

12:20 – Different threats to the emotional wellbeing of children in our culture

16:50 – Katy talks about what surrogacy really is

25:00 – How can we protect our kids from being harmed by today’s culture?

29:30 – How you can help the Them Before Us movement

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